The following is a conversation with Jeremy Surrey, a historian at UT Austin.

And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor.

Check them out in the description.

It's the best way to support this podcast.

We've got 8 sleep, 4 naps, better help for mental health, inside tracker for bio-monitoring

and athletic greens for multi vitamins.

Choose wise to my friends.

And now onto the full ad reads, as always no ads in the middle.

I try to make this interesting, but if you must skip them, friends, please still check

out the sponsors.

I enjoy their stuff, maybe you will too.

This episode is sponsored by 8 sleep, and it's new pod 3 mattress.

I saw a meme recently, maybe I should look it up.

It was a meme that was highlighting different ways you can do self care, which is depending

on how you feel was the best solution.

I think it was, if everybody hates you, go to sleep.

If you hate everybody, eat some food, and if you hate yourself, take a shower.

I think those advice, obviously it's just a meme.

But there's some truth to that, at least the first and the third for me.

A shower is a refreshing way to take control of your life, and it feels like a fresh start

and sleep.

It's just magic to me.

...