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Welcome to episode 353. This is awesome. It's about famous failures. You know, so we've had a lot of major artists, a lot of massive songwriters come in and talk about.

Man, this is time where some failure happened and they thought it sucked for their career, but actually it helped them in the long run.

You know, from getting dropped from record labels and publishing deals to people that just told them, hey, as an artist, we don't think you have what it takes.

Obviously, people are all massively successful now. So it's a reminder that you can win by losing. That's right. So boom, Mike, what's your biggest musical failure? Your punk band?

Probably my punk band, yeah. I mean, we moved to Austin, Texas to try to make it. We tore Texas a bunch, but never quite got there. How does that make you better?

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