The Trump and company are saboteurs.

They're trying to sabotage America so thoroughly that it'll be wrecked for generations.

And that's why they're wrecking medical research, scientific research, child welfare.

All the things that brought America prosperity and prestige in the world have to be wrecked.

It's so tragic.

This is what makes me nerd.

So tragic.

James, we're elevating ourselves.

We have Dr. Ruth Ben-Giott, who has written a great book, Strong Men, from Mussolini

to the President.

She is an expert on authoritarianism and strong men.

Doctor, we really appreciate, I'll call you, Ruth. We appreciate you being here.

One of the things that strikes me that none of them, none of the strong men believe in the rule of

law. Michael Ludig, the judge, said to us, you know, a year ago, the basic issue with Trump

it doesn't believe in the rule of law. You have to understand. I think Nixon did believe in the

rule of law. He just violated it a number of times. But strong men don't care about the

rule of law. So, so basically, is Trump any different than most of the people that you wrote about

it as far as that?

No.

And one of the things that we've seen in Minneapolis, I think it's coming home to people, is that these are, this is an administration that has totally rejected any democratic notion of public space, of law enforcement, when recently it came out that an ice

agent told a legal observer, just standing around peacefully, if you raise your voice, I'll erase your

voice. And he felt, you could see he felt proud saying that. He felt very powerful. And so this has been a big shock for people that to realize that just standing, the terror can be random. Anybody who is seen to be opposing and the definition of opposing is now just, could be just standing around as long as you're there as a protester

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