Hi, welcome to Havilis podcast. I'm your host, Havala, Cunnington, and I'm so excited that you're

here for this month because March is all about marriage. We're talking about this beautiful,

crazy, sometimes hard, other times really exciting season of our lives in the sense of,

like the relationship of marriage. It's a big deal.

My husband and I are celebrating almost 20 years of marriage. I always say we've been married

for almost 20 years, happily married for 15. So it's been a journey. But I've also watched my

parents who are celebrating their 50th this year. It's been both very exciting to watch

somebody have longevity in their marriage, but also kind of deflating to watch them argue of the same

things that my husband and I are arguing over it for 20 years. I'm like, oh, the next 30. Thanks,

Mom and Dad. But anyway, I hope that you will find strength in this episode and I hope that you will find courage

and just hope that wherever you are that it may not be over like you think it is or it may

actually, you might be able to make it a little easier if you do a few things and make a few choices.

So I'm really glad you're here.

And listen, if you're not married, this is the best time to listen to something like this.

Because sometimes it's hard to learn how to raise a kid when you are trying to like

feed a kid and, you know, care for a kid. It's much better to get educated beforehand.

So I'm really glad you're here. And most importantly, I'm thrilled to have not only my like best friends, but also some of the people in my life that I think are experts on this topic of marriage and relationships.

So today at the table I have Jason and Lauren Valaton.

I am thrilled that you guys are here.

You are like the top of my list when it comes to marriage.

I'm like, let's get Jason and Lauren at the table. I didn't think I could get you guys here to be honest. Not that you wouldn't do it

for me, but I know you guys have big lives and you have a lot going on. And I know that you run

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