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Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast.

I'm your host, Rick Wilson.

And today we have a really interesting book to talk about by two guests. George Bombayat and Peter Hutchison have written a book called Invisible Doctrine, The Secret History of Neoliberalism. Now, this is one of those things that's sort of the magic of the Lincoln Project.

You know, you have to break your old predicates about how things work.

And I would have told you 10 years ago that I was a rabid free markets guy.

And I still believed for a long time that what we had in America was a free market system, but we really don't.

And it's been more and more obvious that this is not a system that's based on market principles at all anymore.

And we might be approaching this, you know, me more from the right and then more from the left.

But this is a fascinating book.

I was reading it last night. And it really does break down a more from the left. But this is a fascinating book. I was reading it

last night. And it really does break down a lot of the illusions about the fact that we,

in the West, particularly, we posture about free market capitalism a lot. But what we have,

ain't that. So with that, I want to welcome you guys to the show. Thank you so much for coming on.

And tell me about the origin story of this book. I always ask for authors that, like, where did this book come from in your work? Tell me about what your big findings are. And let's talk it through about where you think the actual global economy is versus the one we, the sort of fairy story we tell ourselves about it?

So perhaps I could start off by answering the first question. Peter and I've never met.

We've made a film together, but we have never actually met. We've seen each other like this.

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