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I'm Brett. And I Alice and we are the prosecutors. Today on the prosecutors, we continue our look at the case of the Isdale Woman. I'm Oh We're Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of the prosecutors. I'm Brett, and I'm joined as always by my deathly co-host, Alice. And in this case, it might be deathly ill. How you doing, Alice? You're making it?

Great. Couldn't be better. It was, I'm so deathly that when I laughed, I just ran into the microphone.

So if you heard a bang, that was me running into the microphone. I feel great.

Alice's commitment to this podcast. She is here. She's ready to record. You know, will she make it through to the end?

We don't know, but we're about to find out, right? Okay. You know what? It's either me or Isdale

woman. That's right. Okay. Well, today, you know, I thought we might finish this episode. I'm now

not so sure because we got so many great emails from people. We have all this stuff we want to share with you. Of all the things we've done, of all the cases we've done, this is the one we've gotten the most feedback on. And I feel like this is just, you guys are wonderful. It's just wonderful to have all of you out there and you've provided so much insight. It's crazy. So I'm just the best use of crowdsourcing. I mean, seriously, it's just great. Like I'm really, some of these stories and insights are just incredible. Anyways, so we got several different listeners who wrote in. We're just going to read what they wrote. I'll start with one of the first ones. I'm not going to use names because,

you know, you just never know if people want their names mentioned or not. So we'll keep it anonymous.

Okay, so this first one has an awesome family, by the way. Like, what a cool life she must have had growing up, but already teamed. My father was an archaeologist. And in the 1950s before I was born

in a taxi cab during a dig at King Midas's tomb, which is already, I mean, awesome. That was an awesome. I don't know if that's literary or actual. I think it's actual. That was a really good way to just kind of put it in as parenthetical. Just sticking in there. I feel like this person could write a book. Anyways, my mother, an artist, accompanied him on excavations. If my recollection is

correct, she often used modeling clay to make impressions of artifacts. The clay did no harm to these

ancient finds, and she could use the molds later to sculpt and draw the pieces accurately. My mother

no longer went on excavations after I was born. I think my unconventional

arrival might have had something to do with that, but she continued her archaeological drawings,

so it's likely my father made molds of the objects and brought them back to facilitate her work.

Not only did the molds capture details in the objects that a photograph couldn't, they also

showed the image in relief. One of my mother's drawings hangs in the

Metropolitan Museum of Art where it accompanies an artifact from one of my father's expeditions.

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