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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#350 — Sharing Reality

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Sam Harris speaks with Jonathan Rauch and Josh Szeps about the foundations of knowledge and the fragmentation of society. They discuss the state of the mainstream media, diversity of viewpoints, the "reality-based" community, what Covid did to our information landscape, the Overton window and the news value of controversial stories, the unique challenge of Trump and Trumpism, the dangers of a second Trump term, the problem of immigration and controlling the southern border of the U.S., and other topics.

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Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast, this is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're hearing this you're not currently on our subscriber feed and will only be hearing the first part of this conversation. In order to access full episodes of the Making Sense Podcast, you'll need to subscribe at Sam Harris.org. There you'll also find our

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scholarship program where we offer free accounts to anyone who can't afford one. We

0:29.0

don't run ads on the podcast and therefore it's made possible entirely through the support of our subscribers.

0:34.0

So if you enjoy what we're doing here, this is Sam Harris. I'm fighting my way

0:50.5

through a respiratory virus here, so I will keep this short.

0:54.0

Today I'm speaking with Jonathan Rauch and Josh Zepp's.

0:58.0

Jonathan is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington.

1:02.0

He is the author of eight books and many articles on

1:06.6

public policy, culture, and government. He is a contributing writer for the Atlantic, and a recipient of the 2005 National Magazine Award,

1:16.8

which is the magazine industry's equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize.

1:20.4

His latest book is The Constitution of Knowledge, a Defense of Truth.

1:25.0

And that is one of the focuses of our conversation today.

1:28.0

Josh Zabs is an independent journalist.

1:31.0

He was a founding host of Huffpost Live. He also

1:34.7

hosted a national morning television show in Australia and a radio show on

1:39.2

ABC Radio and now he's full-time on his own platform, the wonderful podcast Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Zeps.

1:47.0

Josh and I have collaborated in the past.

1:50.0

We did some live events in Australia. And I wanted to bring him on to co-pilot this interview with me with Jonathan

1:58.4

as I said we talk about Jonathan's book the constitution of knowledge

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We talk about the fragmentation of knowledge. We talk about the

2:03.3

fragmentation of society, the state of the mainstream media, diversity of

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viewpoints, the threatened reality-based community, what the COVID pandemic did to our information landscape,

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