Hi, I'm Stage and Stages, Lin-Manual Miranda, and you're listening to The Hamlet Cast.

Bootsing, cuts and pissing.

Hi friends, I'm Jillian, and you're listening to The Hamlet Cast.

This is my second episode with Obyama Ugola, known around the ham fam as Oby,

aka the original George Washington of the West End.

Last week, Oby talked about his journey to acting and committing to his work.

We also took a deep dive into activism and how that relates to his art and art in general.

In our second episode, our conversation picks up right where we left off,

discussing the results of the 2016 election and what that meant for all of us.

So here's part two with the one and only Obyama Ugola.

But yeah, it was scary and it felt very like, I mean, the streets the next day,

felt like the beginning of the pandemic, it felt like 9-11.

When no one was out, it was just sad.

It was just like this sort of grave, like, gray, dark feeling of like, what the fuck happened?

And I don't know because I think there was a part of me that when people were surprised,

because I think some people were surprised by Brexit, right?

And they were like, can't believe that happened.

No, not really.

Yeah, and I think I want to correct, because it's not like, I can't, but it was just like,

yeah, yeah, yeah, the worst happened.

Like the worst possible outcome happened.

Which, and again, I think it's that, right?

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