350 // Jason Flom & Maggie Freleng

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Crawlspace Media

True Crime, News, Society & Culture

4 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this episode Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna speak with old friend Maggie Freleng and new friend Jason Flom. Together, Maggie & Jason work tirelessly (and heroically) to advocate for the wrongfully convicted and in a growing number of cases, overturn those convictions. Listen to their show, Wrongful Conviction here: https://lavaforgood.com/with-maggie-freleng & https://lavaforgood.com/with-jason-flom. The conversation primarily focuses on the new show, Bone Valley, a Lava For Good production. For more information about Bone Valley, go to: https://lavaforgood.com/bone-valley/. Jason is the founding board member of The Innocence Project. For more on that amazing organization go to: https://innocenceproject.org/. Maggie won a Pulitzer Prize for her work on the incredible show Suave. Check it out here: https://www.futuromediagroup.org/suave/ This is a powerful conversation highlighted by a real-time call Jason receives from an incarcerated man named Paul Cortez. In 2005, Catherine Woods was stabbed to death in her Upper Eastside apartment. A confluence of racism, a false media narrative, prosecutorial misconduct, and ineffective counsel sent Paul Cortez away for 25 to life. To learn more and get involved, visit: http://freepaulcortez.com/. Paul also wrote a book, For Treason of Innocence & you can buy your copy here: https://a.co/d/1l5mNZV. Listen to Paul's episode of Wrongful Conviction: https://lavaforgood.com/podcast/242-jason-flom-with-paul-cortez/ Bone Valley is a Lava For Good and iHeartPodcasts series and it's available to binge now on all platforms: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-bone-valley-101763565/ Check out everything Lava For Good has going on at: https://lavaforgood.com/. Follow Maggie on: Twitter-http://twitter.com/maggiefreleng Instagram-https://www.instagram.com/maggiefreleng/ Follow Jason on: Twitter-https://twitter.com/itsjasonflom Instagram-https://www.instagram.com/itsjasonflom/?hl=en Check out our Subscription Service where we have a bundled our bonus material from both the Missing and Crawlspace shows! Ad-free episodes and more at https://missing.supportingcast.fm/ Use promo code, "Missing" for your first month FREE! Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/ Join the Crawlspace Discussion Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/talkcrawlspace/ Crawlspace Media is part of the Glassbox Media Network. Check them out here: https://glassboxmedia.com/ Follow Private Investigations For the Missing https://investigationsforthemissing.org/ http://piftm.org/donate https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/ https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.
0:31.0	Welcome to Crawl Space. I'm Tim here today with Lance Lance. How are you today?
0:38.0	Doing fantastic per usual Tim. It's great to be here. Great to have this really unique conversation coming up.
0:46.0	There's some moments in this conversation that our listeners are going to be moved by.
0:50.0	Really happy that we had the opportunity to speak with these two people.
0:54.0	One is an old friend, the other is a new friend, but Tim, I'm going to stop blathering on here. How are you sir?
0:59.0	I'm doing great over here Lance. Thanks a lot for asking. Yes, I am really excited to share this conversation as well.
1:05.0	We speak with two real powerhouses on this conversation.
1:09.0	One is old friend Maggie Freeling, who we've worked with for years, dating back to our time investigating the more a Murray disappearance.
1:17.0	She's won a Pulitzer Prize, as you know.
1:20.0	We also are speaking with Jason Flom in this conversation, who is the founding board member of the Innocence Project.
1:27.0	And he is a force of nature himself. They both host wrongful conviction.
1:32.0	The insanely popular podcast that is making real world change with this medium.
1:38.0	It's incredible to know somebody like Jason Flom who started off as the founder of lava records.
1:43.0	He was in the music industry and he moved on to Atlantic records, Virgin records.
1:48.0	And now his entire mission in life is to advocate for those who have been wrongfully convicted.
1:54.0	Check out lava for good.com and you'll see the other shows that they have their hands in, including a show that we get into in depth here called Bone Valley.
2:04.0	It's a new show. It's basically taken over the charts in podcasting. And it is an absolutely incredible story about the murder of Michelle Scofield from 1987.
2:15.0	And her husband Leo who is convicted for that murder and sentenced to life in prison. The show Tim, I know you love it. It's unbelievable.
2:23.0	Yeah, it is fantastic. It is just such great journalism and it's put together really well.
2:28.0	So yeah, definitely listen to Bone Valley wherever you get your podcasts after you listen to this interview though.
2:33.0	And speaking of Pulitzer prize winners, it is hosted and researched and investigated by Gilbert King who won a Pulitzer for his book devil in the grove and his research assistant Kelsey Decker.
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