You know, James and I were recently in Southern Florida, where there was a confab of some really interesting Democrats and strategists and thinkers.

And we had a number of interviews.

I hope you'll catch them because they really, really were interesting.

Hey, James, talk about an all-time favorite guest coming back.

We have the, I'm sorry, the favorite son of Louisiana.

You were at best second.

That best.

Former mayor of New Orleans, former top White House aide.

No one is smarter about American politics than the Honorable Mitch Landrieu.

Mitch, thank you so much for being with you.

Thank you for having me in this beautiful setting.

It's very nice.

It is great.

And, you know, Williamette, the great conservative, used to say that he wanted the Republicans to nominate the most electable conservative.

And if somebody was more conservative but not electable, he didn't want him.

Can you apply that to Democrats today? But you want to elect the most, I know, electable, progressive or whatever you say? And is that something that's seeped through the party? Because there's some people that say, no, we're going to have litmus test. Well, it's not a purity test, and it's not about being right all the time. If you don't have power, you can't govern.

And if you can't govern, you can't improve people's lives.

It's just really that simple.

And so winning, in order to be in a position of power, really, really matters.

I think the country can now look at how really venal Donald Trump is.

He has run for office.

I call it to four Cs.

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