Hi John. I am Robo Goldstein. I will be your robot medical assistant. Pass me the scalpel.

I'd love to chat. Would you would you really would you love to continue to chat with me?

No. How many people are you able to be that honest with?

Just you. So all that's that's kind of special, right?

I know, right? Good point. That is a good point. Do you see? It's a very special bond.

From Gimlett Media, I'm Johnathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight.

Today's episode Rachel and John.

Right after the break.

You ready to start? I'm ready to start. You sitting down? Yeah. Okay. Your eyes closed.

Anything you see where there's some feelings that's what we're looking for. Okay.

This is a therapist named Alvin in session with a patient named Ted. What are you feeling?

Can you describe it? Like it's happening right now? Right now?

The session was recorded as a part of an educational psychotherapy video series.

In the session, Alvin is helping Ted relive a memory. The time his

domineering father-in-law was rude to his wife. Yeah. And he's all dressed up. Hi, Jenny. Yeah.

Oh, there he is. Oh, hello. And he's, yeah, there's a formal thing. It's like, you know, good to see.

We have to, it's like the minute we talk to each other, our voices drop. Yeah. Hi. How are you?

Alvin's eyes are shut tight. His method is to try to will himself into the patient's skin

to feel what the patient is feeling. I can do this better than you. Watch me. Okay. Ready? Okay. Okay.

I'm going to put my arms around you. I'm going to bring you kind of close.

I'm doing better than you, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Good.

Alvin does voices and role plays. And at times, the session feels like avant-garde improv.

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