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Today is September 19th, and the last week and a half has been maybe the most difficult week in this work that I've experienced as a fairly

new, new person to this space. We witnessed the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the changes in the

administration, the announcement of a new patriotic civics course, the firing of Jimmy Kimmel

for voicing an opinion, declarations of

resistance groups being terrorist groups. And it's been a lot. And I understand that it's been a lot.

And I'm very excited to have this next guest come on. So if you're wondering why in the previous

episodes, I didn't talk about what was going on with Charlie Kirk. It was because this is the

first recording I'm making after his death. And we're going to talk about that. And today I have a very

special guest that I met through social media. Her name is Caroline Stout. And also like me,

a former conservative, a former conservative who in fact fact, used to work for turning point in the

first Trump administration. And today we're going to focus not just on her journey and both of

our deconstructions, but on healing. There's a lot of people who follow my platform who are either

former conservatives and some are former MAGA and some people are lost and they're confused

and they're scared.

And we are going to talk all about that and talk about how do we have these conversations

in the midst of a time where things are spiraling into a fever pitch?

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