Those are aspects that we would call signature aspects.

And so I really felt like I had to take a crash course in fire.

Hello and welcome to Best Case Worse Case. This is Jim Clementi, retired at BI Profiler,

and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is my co-host.

Hi everybody, it's franceyhakes, former state and federal prosecutor.

Jim, here we are once again back in studio together. It's awesome.

Yes, got to love being back home in LA, our adopted home for both of us.

That's right.

We love it here, the weather's beautiful, and it's a little bit more relaxing than other places in the world.

No doubt about it.

Well, francey, today I'd like to take the time to ask you about another best case or worst case of your career.

You got something to talk to me about.

I do. Jim, when do I ever not have something to talk to you about?

True, true, true.

Everyone knows that. But in honor of Thanksgiving Week, Jim and I thought we would maybe lighten things up just a little bit.

So for those of you tuning in on Thanksgiving Week, looking for a break from Turkey and family drama,

I think this particular case will be a little bit lighter. It's a serious case, but it's not child related.

Right. Well, you know, there are serious cases out there that aren't child related, but yeah, I don't know yet about the case.

So what kind of case is it?

It is a serial arson case.

Really? Well, those cases can sometimes be very dark and gloomy and destructive.

So how went, excuse me, we'll do this part over.

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