Hi, welcome to Habloz podcast.

I'm your host, Habela.

And today we are jumping deeper into the topic of sexuality,

really the topics that we don't often talk about in the church,

but really are pretty important that we actually

have these conversations.

And I know that you guys have, if you were here last time,

I talked about the science of sex.

We'll be talking about where you learn about sex.

But now we're going to have a conversation around being single and having sex and or not having sex or, you know, all the things.

And what I wanted to do today was I wanted to have a conversation with somebody that is a friend, but also somebody who I know is using her incredible energy, strength,

intellect to build healthy sexuality in the church and the faith community at large.

And so I invited Ellis Madre to be with me today.

Now, before I give her the full introduction, her and her husband are directors of Moral Revolution.

And if you've never heard of that organization, it's an incredible organization. In fact,

my husband and I were directors of Morvolution for six years before Ellis and her husband

took over. And between that, Kate and her husband, Cole, led it. And it's really an

organization where they spend a ton of time working on healthy sexuality in the church,

deconstructing weird theology, and helping just to empower people in the culture that we live

in to not ignore their sexuality, but to be empowered to live a healthy sexual life in their life,

whether you're married or not married or whether you're divorced or whatever it might be.

And so I felt like it'd be important to have a conversation around this.

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