They don't give you a break on your mortgage if your utility bills are going to be less.

The construction industry is so focused on initial costs and not operating costs.

So there's lots of problems that contribute to our not, you know, not building better houses.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast. This is the senior editor of Patrick McComb.

This is the second half of our two-part interview with former Fine Home Building editor, Kevin Ierton.

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You, like a lot of people in the trades, are challenged with physical demands on your body, and decades of doing that take their toll.

I think you'd agree. How do you stay healthy and do you have aches and pains and hearing loss

associated from your work and the trades as a younger man?

The first thing that I'll say is that probably my ability to do what I do as well as I do

at this age has a lot to do with the fact that I worked at fine home building for nearly

25 years.

And that I, even though I worked on my house during the weekends, I wasn't out on a job

site, you know, five days a week

for all of that time.

But I also, when I was about 49, I tore my rotator cuff.

And if you've never had that particular injury, good for you.

I hope you never do.

But it's literally like somebody's cut a hydraulic hose and, you know, you can't raise your arm over your head.

You can't shampoo your hair.

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