Everyone, welcome to Call Me Now with Judy Gold. I am your host, Judy Gold. And this

week on Kill Me Now is part one of my interview with John Pavlovitz. He's a

pastor. If you don't follow him on Twitter, you're out of your mind. His most

recent book, If God Is Love, Don't Be a Jerk, Finding a Faith that makes us

better humans is out and great. And he's great. And I hope you enjoy. I really

love him. We did a radio show together and had so much fun. And he's adorable

handsome. And you'll say enjoy. Ladies and gentlemen, and they, Thames, and

others, and who am I ever else? I'm so excited. I've been dying to interview our

guests today. Ever since I met him at John Fugles, but did we meet on John

Fugles' song show? We did. We did. It had to be six years ago, five years ago,

something like that. And I was like, oh my God, I love this guy. His name is John

Pavlovitz. He is a pastor. He is an author. He is a blogger. He is a father. He is a

husband. He is fucking smart. Oh, he's a brain tumor survivor. What else? I don't

know. He's a graphic artist. He's a lot of things. And he's on our show. Are now

John, I don't know if you've ever listened to the show. I doubt it. But because all you

do is right, you have, I have a Jew bell. And any time I mentioned anything remotely

Jewish, I ring a bell, you know, just to show people how much we've contributed to

the world. Now, I am going to go out on a limb. I think you have some Jew and

you, John. Yeah. Well, you wouldn't be the first one. And I can't, you know, I don't

know that I do, but I wouldn't want to deny it. I wouldn't. It wouldn't be wonderful.

Look at your Jew face and your Russian. Are you part Russian? I am part Russian and

we're finding out could be Polish. So who knows, right? I'm telling you, I know because

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