348. The 28-Point Scandal

Battleground

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🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Join Saul David and Patrick Bishop as they dissect the latest surrounding the war in Ukraine, including the extraordinary collapse and revision of the US 'peace plan' for Ukraine. What started as a controversial 28-point proposal—heavily suspected to have been drafted by Russia and passed on by US envoy Steve Witkoff (as revealed in leaked calls)—has now been reduced to a 19-point framework that Ukraine can accept, but which the Kremlin is actively rejecting despite President Trump's optimistic claims of "tremendous progress." The hosts explore the initial pro-Russian demands, the damning evidence of Moscow's influence, and the uncomfortable reality that the amended plan still offers Russia an amnesty for war crimes. Crucially, they analyze the deepening economic crisis in Russia, with collapsing energy exports suggesting Putin may soon be unable to fund his war of aggression, even as the conflict grinds on. If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - [email protected] Producer: James Hodgson X (Twitter): @PodBattleground Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:46.1	Not much to it, is there? Unless, of course, it's a walker's sandwich.
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1:00.0	Delicious.
1:01.0	Delicious. Hello and welcome to Battleground Ukraine with me, Saul David and Patrick Bishop.
1:19.4	Well, as we predicted on the weekend, a view echoed by former NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson on this podcast on Tuesday.
1:28.1	President Trump's disgraceful 28-point peace plan for Ukraine's surrender
1:32.9	did not survive its first contact with the enemy, and by that I mean Ukraine and Europe.
1:38.9	Instead, in a remarkable U-turn, we're now inching towards a reduced 19-point peace plan that Ukrainians can
1:46.2	just about stomach, but that is unlikely to satisfy Russia, whatever Trump may say on social media.
1:52.7	It's all got a groundhog day feel to it, doesn't it, Saul?
1:57.2	A deja vu all over again, as Yogi Berra would have said. So let's just recap on where we are
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