348 | Is Taiwan Next?: Part II with Elbridge Colby

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.8 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Elbridge Colby, co-founder of The Marathon Initiative, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Strategy and Force Development, and author of The Strategy of Denial: American Defense in an Age of Great Power Conflict, returns to The Realignment to follow up on last year's episode on Taiwan. Elbridge and Marshall discuss whether the U.S. can "walk and chew gum at the same time," what a "Twelve-Step" program for revitalizing the defense industrial base looks like, and how the U.S. can deter conflict in the Asia-Pacific region.

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0:00.0	Marshall here. Welcome back to the Realignment.
0:08.1	Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. Today's episode is a follow-up that marks the
0:13.6	passing of the one-year anniversary of Russia's Beijing and Ukraine. Last year towards the
0:18.6	start of the war and my 30-day series, I interviewed Elbridge Colby. Elbridge is the author of
0:23.7	the Strategy of Denial, American Defense, an age of Great Power Conflict, and he was the lead
0:28.9	architect of the 2018 National Defense Strategy. Last year's episode focused on how the war in
0:34.5	Ukraine relates to the age of Pacific, specifically whether it would either encourage or discourage
0:40.6	a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. I know this episode actually did really well because folks had a
0:45.2	lot of thoughts on that topic, so this is a great way to check in with a previous guest and see how
0:49.4	their thought has evolved over the course of the past year. Both of us said hope you all enjoy this
0:54.4	conversation and thank you to Lincoln Network for supporting the Realignment.
1:02.0	Elbridge Colby, welcome back to the Realignment. Great to be with you, Marshall.
1:06.8	Yeah, we're nearing, obviously we're past the one-year anniversary of the war in Ukraine, but also
1:13.1	we're nearing when we first published one of our first initial response episodes, which is basically
1:18.0	titled, is Taiwan Next, who is based upon an article that you put out in the Wall Street Journal.
1:23.6	So let's just start by revisiting that piece. Your central claim point of advocacy take away was
1:33.5	a war in Ukraine could serve as a humongous distraction to the United States' priorities in Asia,
1:40.4	specifically Taiwan. You were explicitly concerned about a very, very, very large ramped up US
1:46.1	troop presence in Europe. How does this concerns fuel today? And how over the course of the year,
1:52.8	did you think that dynamic played out? Well, thanks, Marshall. It's great to be with you and a
1:58.6	pleasure and a privilege. Unfortunately, I fear that I think my fears have been well grounded.
2:05.6	I think they unfortunately have been vindicated. I mean, I think if you look at the situation
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