If you don't understand IT, you think it's an assembly line. You put something in and something comes out the other side, right? You don't interact with it throughout the process and all of a sudden the widget falls off the line. You actually have to help teach the business to talk to you about the what and the why, not the how. All right, everyone, welcome back to dissecting popular IT nerds today.

Very excited.

I've been talking about you a lot behind your back.

You didn't even know that, secretly, even inside our secret community.

Denise Hadzadakis, I pronounced that correctly.

Such a big deal.

I mean, CIO, CTO, C-So, what other Cs can we throw in there?

Probably some other, I don't know, certifications of sort.

But what I want to do is really break this up into the most meaningful and impactful things that we can do for your fellow IT leaders.

Number one, and the first question that I have is,

and you can take, I'm going to give you like six minutes on this one.

It's probably not enough time.

It might go longer, but I want to try to,

I really want to try to make this as impactful as possible.

So first question, how do we teach executive management how to talk

to IT? Yeah, that's a good question. And it's usually at the crux of whether IT is a good business

partner or not. I think there's a lot of things that we can do to help the business work with

IT. One of the first things and one of the

things that I see IT people do often is over-explained technology to the business. We often,

because we are tech and we're excited about tech and we want to talk about tech, we over-explain

it to the business, which actually causes confusion, right? Because

they're wanting to understand everything you're explaining because they're trying to be a good

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