Yes, God, God. So this is the plot cast I'm Douglas Wilson. This is episode 348 and it's good to have you with us. Thanks for

coming. So in recent weeks a historian with the last name of Cooper went on Tucker and they talked about

World War II and Winston Churchill and one of Cooper's contentions is that

Churchill was one of the villains of the peace in World War II,

arguing that it was not a necessary war, that Hitler was willing to settle for peace,

and Churchill wasn't having any.

And of course, everybody knows that.

Everybody knows that there were people ready to make peace on England's side

and everybody knows that Churchill wasn't having any, but the classic

account of this is Churchill wasn't having any because he was far-sighted and saw that appeasement would not work and so he brought everything

to a head sooner rather than later. Then after the fact people people have said, okay, but Hitler wanted peace with England.

He was willing to negotiate a peace with England.

Well, he didn't just want peace with England.

He wanted peace with England and Belgium. He wanted peace with

England and some of the territories that he had his eye on. There was, so there you go.

But my issue in all of this,

and this is I think important to emphasize,

my issue in this is not whether Churchill was entirely pure, you know, was he basically

Aragorn son of Arathorne, or was he the villain of the peace or a significant villain of the

piece or a significant villain of the piece or was he a great man with some significant

blemishes? When you have a great man and you have a situation of high conflict, there are certainly things that you can, certainly issues you can raise as a that was not good.

So as I would argue that that the fire bombing of Dresden was not good.

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