#348 Chasing an Al Qaeda Killer w/ Jake Tapper
The Road to Now
Benjamin Sawyer
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 6 October 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
The War on Terror that followed the 9/11 attacks took place on battlefields across the globe, but it also took place in our legal system. In this episode, CNN's Jake Tapper joins us to discuss his new book, Race Against Terror: Chasing an Al Qaeda Killer at the Dawn of the Forever War, and how dedicated public servants saved countless lives by bringing a terrorist to justice.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Bob Crawford. |
| 0:06.3 | I'm Ben Sawyer. |
| 0:07.4 | And this is The Road to Now. |
| 0:10.0 | Yes, it is, The Road to Now. |
| 0:11.5 | Our guest today, the author of eight books with four pets and multiple children and many jobs, a man, you might know from one of those. |
| 0:22.4 | Jake Tapper, welcome to the show. |
| 0:24.2 | It's so great to be here. |
| 0:28.8 | And for those listening, I, you know, I just spend about 15 minutes talking about how much I love the David Brothers. |
| 0:29.6 | So, like, don't think that I didn't already say that. |
| 0:33.5 | It's always great when somebody brings that up because then I just like to chime in and |
| 0:36.0 | be like, they're awesome, aren't they? |
| 0:37.4 | They're so good. But I mean, I'm just the short version of what I just did is I just talked about how great they are. |
| 0:42.7 | And I talked about how I think true sadness is one of the most profound songs written in the last 50 years. |
| 0:48.7 | And I'm blushing. |
| 0:50.3 | He is. He really is. I can see him. |
| 0:52.4 | I really feel that way. It's just a beautiful song, beautiful song. |
| 0:56.0 | Well, your book that you have out now that is coming out. If you're listening to the show, it's out this week. |
| 1:01.6 | Race Against Terror, Chasing an Al-Qaeda killer at the dawn of the Forever War. It's about the world terror. |
| 1:08.8 | I think for those of us living now, even those who live through it, |
| 1:12.0 | there are these key focal points we think about, 9-11, right? The invasion of Afghanistan, |
| 1:16.4 | the invasion of Iraq and these pivotal moments. But most of them take place on the battlefield. |
| 1:22.1 | And what you show in this book is that this war is all-encompassing. It's not just on the battlefield. It takes up |
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