Yeah, well the thing with surfing is you're only going to get worse at it.

So you better, oh, I mean you are, you're going to get older, you're going to get, it's going

to find it harder.

So like you've got to figure out a way to keep evolving as a human to navigate that.

I mean, I'm not talking about performance, you're only going to get, like, well, it's

performance surfing, you know, this level, you know, I guess more talking about performance. You're only going to get, like, well, it's performance surfing.

You know, this level, I guess the WSL's performance surfing.

And if you got to any level close to that, you're only going to get worse.

Like I look at, like I look at Skip.

I saw a photograph to Skip the other day, right?

78, 79.

I think he had a birthday, not sure what age he'd turned. But I saw this photo of him and he had an 11-foot surfboard under his arm and he was going out to ride big waves. And I just went, there you go. Look at that. There's a 78-year-old man completely evolved. He's got the right equipment. He knows how to still get out. He's going to be able to paddle into all the waves he wants.

And he's going to ride a wave and probably catch the best wave of his life today.

That's an inspiring thought.

I was inspiring for me to see the photo because I was just,

I was so stoked, you know?

Because last time I surf with

skippy he he was bummed on something and he didn't he he didn't want to go surfing because

he just there's something going on he didn't want to surf and I was only there for a couple

of days but um he came out and he went past me on this wave and he just he went on his knees

you know and he just I was at water level with him and he went past me on his wave and he just, he went on his knees, you know, and he just,

I was at water level with him and he went past me on his knees and he had his hands out like a pelican.

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