birth is going to go well the vast majority of the time and sometimes no matter what you do it's just not

how would your life's work be different if you didn't have each other where would you be we both would

have quit yeah we both would have quit i drove the dad and my client's mom to the hospital following the ambulance.

And my fear, my biggest fear was that we were not just arriving to a baby that didn't make it, that we were also going to arrive to a woman who didn't make it.

And my nervous system is jacked. You know, like it's not calm and resilient.

It's like I imagine it's like an elastic that's taught and you throw something at it and it snaps instead of absorbing and allowing.

Do you carry fear into your bursts?

Are you afraid of that happening again? I'm Cynthia Overgard,

birth educator, advocate for informed consent, and postpartum support specialist. And I'm Tresha Ludwig,

certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant. And this is the Down to Birth Show.

Childbirth is something we're made to do.

But how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture?

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Hi. Hi, Cynthia. Hi, Tricia. I'm so pumped to be back again. I'm Sarah with Dynamic Dool-Az.

And I'm Laura, the other half of Dynamic Dulas. We were here a while ago, episode 196. And what episode are we now?

Oh, gosh.

We're at around the 350 point.

Yeah.

So we're excited to be back.

We had such a juicy conversation with you last time. So we're pumped to be back and chat to you about where we're at.

I listened to that episode this morning on my way to the gym. And it was funny to hear

us say that we both had 11 year olds at the time because now we both have 14 year olds and high

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