347. Unlocking AI's Potential with Jeremy Utley, David McRaney, and Henrik Werdelin (Part 2)

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Greg McKeown

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🗓️ 31 October 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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About the Guests: Jeremy Utley: A notable faculty member at Stanford University's D School and author of "Idea Flow: The Only Business Metric That Matters." Jeremy is known for his research and insights into creativity, innovation, and the interplay between human cognition and technology. He has been instrumental in exploring the applications of AI in problem-solving and productivity. David McRaney: A researcher focused on the concept of genius and cognitive biases. He hosts a podcast where he explores these themes extensively, having Jeremy Utley as one of his guests in exploring the cognitive bias in people's collaboration with AI. Henrik Werdelin: Known for his exploratory insights into AI, its capabilities, and implications for the future. Henrik is an entrepreneur and author best known for co-founding Bark, as well as starting Prehype, a venture building research and development group headquartered in New York. Episode Summary: Greg continues the engaging dialogue exploring the potential and limitations of AI in enhancing human understanding and communication. Joined by his distinguished guests Jeremy Utley, David McRaney, and Henrik Werdelin, they discuss how AI could be used as a tool to facilitate better communication and understanding among individuals. The episode touches on the daily use of AI technologies like GPT, which have notably started to replace traditional search engines for some tasks. and they all explore the possibility of AI-improving interpersonal relationships by offering insights and mediating communication, questioning the biases Key Takeaways: AI as a Mediator: AI has the potential to assist in mediating conflicts and misunderstandings in human communication by functioning as a second, unbiased listener. Epiphany Generator: Using AI in daily workflows can transform it into a tool that not only provides information but also stimulates new ideas and insights. Towards Better Conversations: The episode emphasizes the importance of rethinking how we engage AI and challenges the notion that it’s primarily for problem-solving rather than for facilitating understanding. Bias Acknowledgement: It’s crucial to recognize our biases toward AI capabilities and to shift our perspective to appreciate AI as a tool for both interpersonal and intrapersonal dialogues. Designing for Listening: Future AI technology should intentionally be designed to foster deep listening and enhance understanding, moving beyond merely responding with solutions. Notable Quotes: "I used GPT as an epiphany generator, an elaboration encourager." "I believe that the primary limitation right now is the interface between us and the machine." "We need the Mediator app. It's not just the fingers problem." Resources: Jeremy Utley's book: "Idea Flow: The Only Business Metric That Matters" Follow Jeremy on X, Instagram, and LinkedIn Follow David on X, Instagram, and LinkedIn Follow Henrik on Instagram, and LinkedIn Affiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Greg! Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

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0:37.0	forward slash 1MW. Okay, we're here for part two of a conversation with my friend Jeremy Utley, with David McRaney, with Henry Kindlin.
0:55.0	We're exploring the possibilities and limits of AI,
1:00.0	particularly as it relates to AI helping humans understand each other more accurately than we do right now.
1:09.0	I have my hesitations about whether AI is designed in such a way that it can do this, but that's
1:16.6	not the same as me thinking it cannot do it, and that couldn't be designed and built to do it. Well with that let's get to part two of this
1:25.7	conversation. So, My day use of geepte is like it's mostly replaced Google for me like I if I
1:57.3	look up something I'll go there and look it up first with the awareness that like
2:01.2	some things are better done over on Google and the but to get to answer what you were describing there Greg like I I used gee.
2:11.0	As an epiphany generator I use it as an elaboration encourager.
2:14.8	Like I'm not looking for it to give you the answers when I'm using it in that way.
2:19.2	If I ask it for the etymology of a word, sure.
2:22.0	If I'm asking it, hey, what are the known side effects of this drug?
2:25.0	If I'm just looking for raw info, that's one thing.
2:28.0	But when I'm doing it for research, I'm doing this sort of a similar sort of spitballing thing where I'm
2:34.0	hoping I'm waiting for my brain to the associate architecture of the way it makes
2:39.2	sense of things to get excited the way all of us have in this conversation
2:42.2	where we're like oh that reminds me of a thing,
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