347. TNE TALKS: Why you should leave your church in 2025 with Jemar Tisby

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.6 • 936 Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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In the first TALKS Episode of 2025, Tim candidly converses with historian Jemar Tisby about the complexities of remaining in or leaving white evangelical churches. They explore the historical context of race and religion, the structural issues within evangelicalism, and the implications of Christian nationalism. The discussion also touches on personal journeys of faith, the challenges of navigating community ties, and the importance of discerning one's place within these church systems. In this conversation, Tim and Jemar explore the complexities of institutional change within the white evangelical church, emphasizing the need for systemic repentance and the potential for a mass exodus from these spaces. Jemar's Website | Jemartisby.com Jemar's Substack | Jemartisby.substack.com Chapters 04:00 Meet Jemar Tisby: Historian and Author 08:46 The Dilemma: Stay or Leave the Church? 13:00 Understanding the Structural Issues in White Evangelicalism 24:13 The Religion of Whiteness: A Sociological Perspective 35:54 Leaving Loudly vs. Quiet Exodus: A Personal Reflection 39:39 Navigating Institutional Change 46:13 The Need for a Mass Exodus 54:10 The Impact of Political Dynamics on Faith 01:10:42 Practical Steps for Engaging with Marginalized Communities _______________________________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.2	You're listening to the new evangelicals podcast.
0:46.2	Yeah. Welcome to the New Evangelicals Talks.
0:48.3	I'm Tim, the host of this segment.
0:51.6	Join us every Monday as we talk to all different kinds of people at the intersection of theology, politics, and culture,
0:55.2	helping you navigate a better path forward in your faith.
1:04.2	Happy New Year, first episode of 2025.
1:09.4	Hi.
1:10.3	How you doing, friends? Good to be with you. This, I wanted to set the tone for
1:14.9	this year. So we're going to jump right into a very honest and raw conversation. Should you
1:21.3	leave your white evangelical church? I brought on my good friend, Jemar Tisby, his historian,
1:27.2	he does amazing work to talk about
1:29.0	this question. What do we do with it? It starts off, I think a little bit. We kind of go back
1:34.3	and forth. And then eventually the gloves come off and we just get down to brass tacks.
1:38.2	And I just share my unfiltered perspective. And so does Jammar. Now listen, you can take it or leave it. We have no power over your life. You can stay or you can go. But I really recommend listening to this episode.
1:48.2	I think that we have to really ask some very difficult questions that might lead to real change
1:54.0	if we can get organized and do it. So I would love your thoughts, love your feedback.
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