What's up, friends? It's me, Mike Roe, with another episode of The Way. I heard it. This is

number 347. It's called Better a Millstone around your neck. Not in the habit of quoting

scripture on this podcast, much less referencing Matthew 18 in the title. But I have for reasons that will soon

be apparent. Chuck, thank you for recommending this guest. You know, I'm sorry we couldn't do it when

the movie came out. The movie is The Sound of Freedom. Pretty big deal ever since July 4th and

really interesting to talk to the guy who made it happen.

Yeah, well, to the guy who the movie is about. It's kind of, you know, his career on the big screen.

And as you recall, you know, I saw this movie July 3rd and came out just overwhelmed with emotion because it's such a powerful film. It's really,

really well done. And it deals with child trafficking, which is our guest, Tim Ballard's Forte.

That's what he did with Homeland Security. And the first thing I did I thought was, what can I do?

And I, of course, called you and said, hey, we should

have somebody, Tim Ballard, Jim Caviesel, somebody from this movie on to talk about it, because it's

really important. Well, the bad news is I just couldn't make it happen right away. You gave me a code

for the movie. It didn't work. That upset me.

And then I realized, you know, in the scheme of things, what was children being abducted and misused?

Maybe my little frustrations in the tech world were not all that germane.

But the good news is the movie was so well received, it beat the snot out of Indiana Jones and Mission Impossible

and really every other major Hollywood release. It came out of nowhere. And it has moved

the needle in ways that few movies do. And it's got people's attention around a topic that, look, it's difficult to talk about.

I mean, there's no bad language in this conversation, but I don't know if you want to listen to it

with your kids, because we're going to talk pretty candidly about the six million slaves that

are currently in bondage around the world right now, the 85,000 children

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