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The Tim Ferriss Show

#347: Stan Grof, Lessons from ~4,500 LSD Sessions and Beyond

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🗓️ 20 November 2018

⏱️ 171 minutes

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Summary

"I realized people were not having LSD experiences; they were having experiences of themselves. But they were coming from depths that psychoanalysis didn't know anything about." — Stanislav Grof

Stanislav Grof, M.D., (stanislavgrof.com) is a psychiatrist with more than 60 years of experience in research of "holotropic" states of consciousness, a large and important subgroup of non-ordinary states that have healing, transformative, and evolutionary potential.

Previously, he was Principal Investigator in a psychedelic research program at the Psychiatric Research Institute in Prague, Czechoslovakia, Chief of Psychiatric Research at the Maryland Psychiatric Research Center, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD, and Scholar-in-Residence at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, CA.

Currently, Stan is Professor of Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in San Francisco, CA, and conducts professional training programs in holotropic breathwork and transpersonal psychology, and gives lectures and seminars worldwide. He is one of the founders and chief theoreticians of transpersonal psychology and the founding president of the International Transpersonal Association (ITA).

His publications include more than 150 articles in professional journals and books like Psychology of the Future, The Cosmic Game, and Holotropic Breathwork, among many others.

In this wide-ranging interview, we cover many topics, including:

  • Some of his main takeaways after supervising or guiding ~4,500 LSD sessions
  • The place and role of "wounded healers"
  • Limitations and uses of traditional psychoanalysis and talk therapy
  • Holotropic breathwork and some similarities to MDMA
  • Stories of odd synchronicities and the seemingly impossible
  • Stan's strangest personal experiences on psychedelics
  • What Stan believes humanity most needs to overcome: division and destruction

I hope you'll enjoy this in-depth conversation with Stan Grof!

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this episode is brought to you by peloton which I've been using probably for about a year now

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peloton is a cutting edge indoor cycling bike that brings live studio classes right into your home

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you can also do on demand which is what I do we'll come back to that

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so you don't have to worry about fitting classes into a busy schedule or making it to a studio

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or gym with a hectic or unpredictable commute

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i for instance have a peloton bike right in my master bedroom at home

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and it's one of the first things I do many mornings i wake up i meditate for a bit

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then i knock out a short 20 minute ride in my undies hard to do that at the gym

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take a shower and i'm in higher gear for the rest of the day

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it's really convenient and has become something that i look forward to

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so you have a lot of options for one if you like you can ride live with thousands of other

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riders across the country on an interactive leaderboard to keep you motivated

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there are also up to 14 new classes added every day with more than 8,000 classes on demand

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and you can pick based on length 45 minutes 20 minutes whatever

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music hip hop rock and roll or say low impact versus high intensity or interval

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