4.4 • 721 Ratings
🗓️ 14 July 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Inside Out, the podcast offering a pragmatic perspective on the Mormon Church and faith. |
0:17.1 | We explore both the strengths and weaknesses of the church. We acknowledge its positive |
0:23.1 | contributions while also addressing challenges in areas for potential growth. I'm your co-host, |
0:30.1 | Ian Wilkes, and as always, I'm joined here by the right, Honorable, Mr. Jim Bennett. Jim, how are you |
0:36.2 | today? I'm both right and honorable, probably more right than Honorable, Mr. Jim Bennett. Jim, how are you today? I'm both right and honorable. |
0:39.6 | Probably more right than honorable. |
0:41.7 | I'm not sure where the balance is. |
0:43.9 | I thought I'd give you that title because I've been watching a lot of British politics |
0:47.3 | and there's a lot of right honorable titles that these people have. |
0:53.4 | So today we have a wonderful and very special guest. Welcome, |
0:58.3 | Valerie Hamaker. Hi, how are you today? Good to be here. Really good, Valerie. So wonderful to |
1:04.3 | have you with this. Did I pronounce your last name correctly? Hamaker, I wish you hadn't, but you did. Yes, it's evolved away from a little bit more of a dignified |
1:14.8 | German sounding last name, but Hamaker, it is in 2025. Wonderful. And I know if I mess it up |
1:22.0 | with my British accent, I've got a British accent going on here. You made it sound better, so I like it. |
1:26.6 | Well, there you go. Well, Varra, it's absolutely wonderful to have you here. You made it sound better, so I like it. Well, there we go. |
1:30.8 | Well, Varra, it's absolutely wonderful to have you here with us. |
1:33.8 | And, of course, to have Jim be with us today. |
1:38.2 | We're looking forward to a very interesting and comfortable, |
1:40.2 | but also lively conversation with you. |
1:43.6 | We've got you for a fairly limited piece of time. |
1:45.5 | So if I can jump straight into it, |
1:48.4 | could you give us a little bit of, and you've been asked these questions many, many times. |
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