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347: Is Putin in control? | Mark Galeotti

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🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Vladimir Putin is often said to have a tsar-like grip on Russia. He is apparently so powerful that he even has Donald Trump in his pocket. Here, historian and Russia expert Mark Galeotti – author of Forged in War – explains why Putin actually faces far greater challenges than the West seems to realise, from the internal threats to his rule to the war’s rising costs and waning public support. Mark also discusses how the West betrayed Ukraine long before Trump’s arrival.

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0:00.0

Everyone is now living in Trump world and they're having to kind of adapt to that.

0:05.0

Things could change very quickly.

0:07.0

Trump could also be a pretty dangerous antagonist.

0:10.0

The thing about Putin is essentially he's an opportunist.

0:14.0

He creates fairly chaotic situations which will throw up a whole variety of different opportunities

0:20.0

and he'll decide there and then which to follow through with.

0:23.6

Morality in international law says the Russians have to leave Ukraine,

0:28.6

return all the prisoners of war, pay reparation.

0:31.6

Well, that's fine, but unfortunately the world does not necessarily work that way.

0:45.2

Hello, I'm Fraser Myers, Deputy Editor of Spikes.

0:51.6

I am delighted to be joined today by Professor Mark Galeotti, a prolific author on all things,

0:57.0

Russia, most recent book Forged in War. Mark, welcome. Good to be here.

0:58.0

Now, Mark, it feels as if the world is changing almost by the minute, especially when it comes

1:05.0

to questions around Russia, Ukraine and the US. At the moment we're in, it's looking like Putin has been offered a peace deal.

1:15.4

Ukraine has agreed to it, but we don't know what Russia is going to, whether it's going to

1:21.6

accept it, whether it's going to drown it out in amendments or nitpicking. What do you make of the current state of play at the

1:30.7

moment? Well, I mean, the first point to make is actually the perverse environment in which

1:36.5

everyone is now living in Trump world. And they're having to kind of adapt to that. And the Ukrainians,

1:42.7

they certainly got a battering clearly from

1:45.9

Trump's point of view to make them realize that as far as he's concerned, obviously they would

1:50.2

differ. But as far as he's concerned, they're a bought and paid for vassal state and need to know

1:55.1

their place. And the Russians, what's interesting is, you know, up to now they have been offered

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