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4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

#347: Can I Encounter Jesus in a Real Way? With John Eldredge

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

Jennifer Rothschild

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

We live in a world that has become disciples of the internet. We’re addicted to distraction, consumed by endless notifications, and we idolize our instant access to a never-ending avalanche of information. But if all this connectivity is supposed to make life better, why are we more anxious, dissatisfied, and weary than ever?

New York Times bestselling author and counselor John Eldredge joins me today to offer a way out of the digital overwhelm. 

He introduces a path to experiencing real, deep communion with Jesus by making room for Him daily. Together, John and I will unpack why our souls are starved for intimacy with God, how to disconnect and break free from distraction, and simple practices to restore our childlike faith and wonder.

Plus, be sure to listen to the very end because I’m sharing a beautiful song from Michael O’Brien that features a Scripture reading by Alistair Begg. It’s the perfect way to seal this life-giving message.

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0:00.0

When you are praying or loving or worshiping, you are tuning in to the Jesus who now lives

0:09.6

inside the depths of your heart.

0:12.3

Not the Lord in the heavens, though we do worship him there, not Jesus just by your side,

0:17.8

but there is an inner communion that every, every believer is meant to know and

0:26.9

enjoy. And that's where we get the nourishment. When Jesus says things like, I'm the bread of life,

0:31.8

he's saying, I literally want to nourish you.

0:39.8

I want to heal your hurts.

0:42.5

I want to strengthen you for the day ahead.

0:46.4

I want to comfort you in the evening after your day.

0:51.3

He wants that kind of rich union. Let me tell you how today's Union.

1:03.9

Let me tell you how today's guest, best-selling author and counselor John Eldridge, describes most people today.

1:08.4

We are all becoming disciples of the Internet.

1:15.3

We're addicted to distraction and we idolize our instant access to this endless avalanche of information and we think we are finally holding the keys to a better life.

1:22.3

But if that's true, why are we all wrestling with more and more anxiety, dissatisfaction, and despair?

1:31.0

Well, I'm glad you asked because you are about to find such hope in John's answer.

1:37.3

Today, on the 413, John Eldridge is going to reveal the path of the ordinary mystic.

1:44.2

And he's going to invite you into the refuge of deep, lasting real communion with Jesus.

1:52.3

Oh, man.

1:53.7

John Eldridge is one of our all-time favorites around here.

1:57.4

And after you hear this life-giving conversation, you will totally understand why. Plus,

2:01.6

we are ending with a song that is going to help seal this message. It's by Michael O'Brien,

2:08.5

and it features a scripture reading by Alistair Begg. I'm telling you, there is so much good

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