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This whole world of modern art is wild.

I've been diving into it, like for the past year now, pretty deep and ever, I got inspired by that Lost Leonardo documentary, which was fascinating.

And then, um, I recently have been reading up on all of the history of like covert operations during

the Cold War to fund the modern art world. And, uh, and your documentary is fascinating. So,

so explain how you got into that whole world and what your book and the documentary are about.

Sure. Remind me to remind me to tell you about the CIA thing because I'm doing a big project

on a Pollock from that program. Oh, really?

Yeah, so I'll tell you about that.

But I was doing, you know, I started as a kind of a cub reporter for Japanese TV in the 90s.

And during that time, the Japanese economy had a bubble economy.

And so there was just money everywhere.

Real estate was going crazy in

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