346. Russia/Ukraine, ESG, gigantism and the West | Senator Mike Lee

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🗓️ 6 April 2023

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Senator Mike Lee discuss the ever present conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the role of the United States in that conflict via proxy war, the rise of ESG investing, why the top investment firms do not care about your values, and what Senator Lee plans to do about it. Elected in 2010 as Utah's 16th Senator, Mike Lee has spent his career defending the fundamental liberties of all Americans and advocating for America's founding constitutional principles. Senator Lee acquired a deep respect for the Constitution early in life while watching his father, Rex E. Lee, serve as the Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan. He attended most of his father's arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court, giving him a unique and up-close understanding of our government. Lee graduated from Brigham Young University with a degree in Political Science, and served as BYU's Student Body President in his senior year. Senator Lee serves as the Ranking Republican on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy, and Consumer Rights, in addition to serving on the Energy and Natural Resources Subcommittee on Public Lands, Forests, and Mining and the Committee on the Budget. Dr. Peterson's extensive catalog is available now on DailyWire+: https://bit.ly/3KrWbS8 - Links - For Senator Mike Lee: Senator Lee's website https://www.lee.senate.gov/ Twitter https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Saving Nine (NEW Book): https://www.amazon.com/Saving-Nine-Against-Audacious-American/dp/1546002200

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0:00.0	Hello everyone, I have the pleasure today of speaking with Senator Mike Lee from Utah.
0:19.3	Mike and I have spoken before on my podcast.
0:22.4	We've got to know each other a little bit as a consequence of being involved in various
0:27.1	endeavors.
0:29.1	I thought he would be an excellent person to help me think through what I'm interested
0:36.7	in, not least today, is how to understand the situation in relationship to Russia and
0:43.1	Ukraine because I don't understand it.
0:45.6	Mike, I'm going to ask you some questions about that situation.
0:50.7	What's been disturbing me most particularly, I would say, is that I don't understand
0:56.8	what it is that the West is aiming out precisely.
1:00.6	When you're aiming at victory because that's hypothetically the aim here, you need to specify
1:06.9	what a victory would look like.
1:10.0	I've been trying to game that in my imagination.
1:12.4	It's like if we got what we wanted, whatever that might be, what would that look like in
1:19.0	any realistic sense?
1:21.3	What I see being emitted from the Biden administration and for the people who are beating the pro-war
1:27.7	drum hard, and that would include my idiot government in Canada, is a very banal form
1:34.3	of dimwit flag waving, which is, well, the Ukrainians are great Democrats and we're supporting
1:41.5	democracy and we're on the side of freedom.
1:44.6	I heard a fair bit of that in about Afghanistan and I heard a fair bit about that relationship
1:50.2	to Iraq and it is obvious to me that that worked out particularly well.
1:55.0	I don't buy the shallow moralizing flag waving and Ukraine is a country that is so corrupt
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