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Birdshot Podcast

#344 | Weather, Puppies, and the Reality of a "Rough" Grouse Year with Fritz Heller

Birdshot Podcast

Nick Larson

Leisure, Science, Sports, Nature, Hobbies, Wilderness

4.8971 Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the Birdshot Podcast, Nick Larson is joined by Fritz Heller, a dedicated upland hunter, to discuss the 2025 hunting season, dogs, grouse hunting, and much more. Fritz shares insights into the challenges of the season, including heat waves and the impact on bird numbers, as well as his experience training new puppies. The conversation also gets into Fritz's plans for the future, including his search for a camper for hunting trips and his thoughts on managing bird populations and hunting conditions. Fritz Heller is an upland bird hunter, dog trainer, and dedicated outdoorsman from Michigan. He has been actively involved in training dogs and hunting for many years, sharing his knowledge of the sport with others. Fritz is passionate about the welfare of wildlife, managing habitats, and improving bird populations, and has a wealth of experience hunting grouse, pheasants, and other upland species. Expect to Learn The impact of weather conditions on the 2025 hunting season Heat waves and their effects on bird numbers, especially in the early season The importance of habitat regeneration and the role of different species, like blackberries, in grouse hunting How puppy training can vary by breed, and how Fritz is raising his new Labrador and Cocker Spaniel puppies Fritz's thoughts on taxidermy and the importance of commemorating hunting memories The search for a camper and how Fritz is researching the best setup for his future hunting tripsEpisode Breakdown with Timestamps: [00:00:00] - Introduction [00:10:57] - 37 Degrees and Snow depth [00:19:57] - Fritz’s Week Trip this Year [00:36:13] - Different Color Phase [00:43:23] - Discussing the puppy’s first season [00:51:37] - Pippa: A Hunting Dog and the difference from a Lab [01:01:40] - Puppy walks [01:13:04] - Ruffed Grouse Drumming in Spring [01:17:28] - Camper, Truck and Rig [01:20:52] - Closing and upcoming plans for the next hunting season Follow the guest, Fritz: How to Hunt Ruffed Grouse with a Flushing Dog: https://projectupland.com/grouse-species/ruffed-grouse/how-to-hunt-ruffed-grouse-with-a-flushing-dog/   Follow the Host Nick: Instagram: @birdshot.podcast Website: www.birdshotpodcast.com Listening Links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17EVUDJPwR2iJggzhLYil7 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/birdshot-podcast/id1288308609 YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@birdshot.podcast SUPPORT | http://www.patreon.com/birdshot Use Promo Code | BSP20 to save 20% on https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/app Use Promo Code | BS10 to save 10% on https://trulockchokes.com/ The Birdshot Podcast is Presented By: https://www.onxmaps.com/

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0:00.0

Our bird numbers were down 50% compared to last year.

0:03.0

I didn't think we could have a season hotter than the fall of 24.

0:07.0

It was boiling.

0:08.0

I still feel like it must have had an impact on our birds.

0:11.0

It must have killed some adults.

0:13.0

Do we believe in the cycle anymore?

0:15.0

Yeah, it is.

0:16.0

It seems like just kind of all over the place, especially.

0:18.0

Snow death's a much bigger factor than maybe I gave it credit.

0:22.4

You get a couple really hard winters of deep, fluffy snow.

0:25.9

The next couple seasons seem to be pretty darn good.

0:28.4

Our birds have had roosting snow since Thanksgiving weekend,

0:32.0

so I'm optimistic.

0:33.7

Bird numbers were down, so you experienced some of what we had in Minnesota.

0:37.1

The ratio of adults was higher than young birds.

0:40.3

Here, Emmy. Good girl, sweetie. That's a big bird.

1:09.0

That's a big bird. That's a big bird.

1:14.0

Wow.

1:16.6

Hey, everyone. Nick Larson here, host of the Birdshot podcast, the show that brings you conversations, stories, and traditions from all across the uplands.

1:25.0

The Birdshot podcast is presented by OnX Hunt and supported by folks just like you via our Patreon community. If you want to stay up to date and not miss any of our upcoming episodes, be sure to subscribe and follow the show in your podcast player or on YouTube wherever you're listening or watching today. Tap that button for me. Thank you for doing so. And with that said, let's get into today's another episode of Birdshot podcast presented by Onex Hunt.

2:15.1

Today I'm excited to be joined once again by my friend fritz heller from

2:19.8

michigan i got to be honest buddy thank you for joining us today but when you texted me yesterday i

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