If your navigating principle is what is going to reduce your risk of getting sick or maybe you

reduce your risk of dying or reduce everybody's risk of getting sick or dying, if that's like your

main navigational compass, then everything else gets sacrificed to that. And I think that there's

a lot more to life than keeping safe. There's a saying from Burning Man, I like 63rd.

Not sure what first and second are, but I mean safety is not unimportant, like we're not

supposed to be reckless, but you're not going to survive life. Like you're going to die anyway.

So then it becomes a matter of how do you live well?

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Hey, Hilda here. Safety 3rd. It sounds funny, I know. And I'm not sure what one and two are

just as Charles says, but I get the point. If we put safety first, we may avoid sickness, injury,

and death. But is that really the same as truly living and living well? This is episode 344

and our guest today is Charles Eisenstein. Charles is a father of four boys, an essayist, speaker,

and the author of several books, including the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible.

Today, Charles holds a magnifying glass on what's happening in our society and in our lives.

He helps us examine our choices and how we are responding to the fear narrative.

And it's not just a philosophical discussion. He talks about why he and his wife decided to pull

his child out of school. He discusses how our ancestors viewed death and he covers how our current

situation has a parallel in modern agriculture, which features, as you know, an attempt to use

more and more control to subjugate the earth. And he points out the futility of that kind of effort.

Finally, Charles invites us to pull back from the drama of our time that we might better engage

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