#344 – Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation
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🗓️ 6 December 2022
⏱️ 154 minutes
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Noam Brown is a research scientist at FAIR, Meta AI, co-creator of AI that achieved superhuman level performance in games of No-Limit Texas Hold’em and Diplomacy. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Noam’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/polynoamial
Noam’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noam-brown-8b785b62/
webDiplomacy: https://webdiplomacy.net/
Noam’s papers:
Superhuman AI for multiplayer poker: https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10119653
Superhuman AI for heads-up no-limit poker: https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10077416
Human-level play in the game of Diplomacy: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ade9097
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) – Introduction
(05:37) – No Limit Texas Hold ’em
(09:30) – Solving poker
(22:40) – Poker vs Chess
(29:18) – AI playing poker
(1:02:46) – Heads-up vs Multi-way poker
(1:13:37) – Greatest poker player of all time
(1:17:10) – Diplomacy game
(1:27:01) – AI negotiating with humans
(2:09:26) – AI in geopolitics
(2:14:11) – Human-like AI for games
(2:20:12) – Ethics of AI
(2:24:26) – AGI
(2:28:25) – Advice to beginners
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The following is a conversation with No Brown. |
| 0:02.4 | Research scientists at Fair, Facebook AI Research Group at Meta AI. |
| 0:07.0 | He co-created the first AI system that achieved superhuman level performance |
| 0:11.9 | in no limit Texas Holdem, both heads up and multiplayer. |
| 0:15.9 | And now, recently, he co-created an AI system that can strategically outnegotiate humans |
| 0:22.7 | using natural language in a popular board game called Diplomacy, |
| 0:26.7 | which is a war game that emphasizes negotiation. |
| 0:31.6 | And now, a quick few second mention of each sponsor. |
| 0:34.4 | Check them out in the description as the best way to support this podcast. |
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