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The Important Cinema Club

#344 - Dede Allen Cut From The Gut

The Important Cinema Club

Justin Decloux and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.7575 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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We discuss the work of Dede Allen, one of the greatest film editors to ever live, and the creative behind the shaping of BONNIE AND CLYDE, DOG DAY AFTERNOON and SLAP SHOT. Join the Patreon now for an exclusive episode every week, access to our entire Patreon Episode back catalogue, your name read out on the next episode, and the friendly Discord chat: patreon.com/theimportantcinemaclub Subscribe, Review and Rate Us on Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…ub/id1067435576 Follow the Podcast: twitter.com/ImprtCinemaClub Follow Will: twitter.com/WillSloanESQ Follow Justin: twitter.com/DeclouxJ Check out Justin's other podcasts, THE BAY STREET VIDEO PODCAST (@thebaystreetvideopodcast), THE VERY FINE COMIC BOOK PODCAST (www.theveryfinecomicbookpodcast.com) and NO SUCH THING AS A BAD MOVIE (@nosuchthingasabadmovie), as well as Will's MICHAEL AND US (@michael-and-us)

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0:00.0

Hello, my name is Justin the Clu, I'm here today with Will Sloan, and you're listening

0:09.0

to The Important Cinema Club. And today, Snip, snip, we're talking about an editor, D.D.

0:14.7

Allen. Justin, no, get those scissors away from me.

0:17.8

We've never done an editor on the important cinema club, mostly because we've

0:21.6

discussed how it's difficult to kind of pinpoint the authorial signature of an editor for us.

0:29.4

Like, we're not saying that an editor does not shape a movie or even make it, you know, what it is,

0:34.8

but for us watching a film going, ah, yes, we can see the editorial

0:38.9

touch there is difficult. And speaking about the subject, we'll continue to be difficult.

0:43.8

Yeah, we're going to do our best folks. But it is interesting, though, because most people on

0:47.5

the crew are there to serve an author's vision. Most cinematographers, when they get to direct

0:52.3

their first movie, typically they're not very good because they've always been at the service of somebody else's vision when Gordon Willis makes windows, you know.

1:00.5

But you know, when an editor becomes a director, like all the poverty row guys started as editors and then became directors.

1:06.3

That's not necessarily the case.

1:07.5

Didy Allen never directed a film herself, even though listening to some

1:11.2

interviews with her, she did have an interest in it. But I think what is fascinating about her

1:16.0

career is that she basically like shaped New Hollywood working with like some of the biggest

1:21.6

names of that period. I mean, she edited Bonnie and Clyde, like the New Hollywood Kickoff

1:26.7

movie and then continued to work

1:28.6

with Arser Penn.

1:29.8

She worked with George Roy Hill.

1:31.5

She edited Signall Lommett's Dog Day Afternoon.

1:34.1

Like her career, like Warren Beatty's Reds, which was a massive undertaking, like you

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