Hey, it's Louise from Team Forleo and welcome to the Marie Forleo podcast.

I'm here to take us back into a powerful and honest conversation that Marie had a few

years ago with the one and only Abby Wombach.

They talked about leadership, bravery, in sports, and in life, and how we all have to sometimes

make our own seat at the table.

I think you're going to love it, so let's go.

I grew up in a big family.

I'm Irish Catholic, background, and I'm the youngest of seven.

So having so many people always in my life and then playing on sports teams, I realized

really early on in my childhood that you have to find your people.

The way in which we all kind of process through our lives, you find your people based on

usually what you do, what you think, what you believe, and obviously I was very, very

attracted to sports, and that defined me, right, and feeling that kind of identity.

I was able to kind of grow in my confidence, and I think it really helped in certain parts

of my self-esteem, but here's the thing.

I think that we, in terms of the whole of our lives, the trajectory, we're just trying

to figure life out, and life is super hard, and it's not easy.

When you are exceptional as something like I was a plane soccer, you can wrap so much

of your identity in and around this idea or this thing or this object or this job, whatever

it is.

The older I get, the more I am trying to unravel myself from the identities or the labels

in which I so desperately clung to, that gave me who I thought I was.

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