Welcome to Kill Me Now with Judy Gold. I'm your host, Judy Gold, and that's my squeaky

chair behind me. I just want to say before I introduce this show that March 26th, which

is this Saturday night, I'll be in Fort Lauderdale, saying the word gay for at least an hour.

So come see me at the Savvore Theater on Saturday, March 26th, this coming Saturday, if you're

in the Fort Lauderdale area. I am thrilled to introduce part two of my interview with Malcolm

Nance. We literally had to be cut off because I couldn't stop talking to him. He had another interview,

but I'm one a man. So I hope you enjoy as much as I enjoy spending time with him. I'm not saying

sit back relax. I'm not just saying enjoy. One of the reasons I think so many people adore you.

I don't know anyone who feels that hatred. I feel towards that fucking piece of orange like the fact

I know you hate him. I mean, it's I am speechless because I can't even, but you are, but seeing

you and it's like, yes, yes, you know, I can't tell you. Well, let me process this for you.

In the military, I was a Navy chief. And once you reach chief in the Navy, you are literally a god.

Right. Okay, you cannot be touched unless you do something stupid. You officers have to listen to

you and listen to people have to adore and worship you. Not really. But they do have to bring you

coffee when you ask for it. So a chief is a you're just untouchable. It means you are the same

as a chief petty officer. Yes, yes. Okay. Senior chief petty officer,

master chief petty officer. And your father was a master chief. And one of the first

African-American instructors in the USA. Boiler technician. Boilers. Right. So he worked in

super-heated steam environments. You know, I remember he tried to get me into that job. I was like,

no, no, no. So I'll be code breaking y'all. So the funny thing is, as a chief, they initiate you.

And I was in one of the last real initiations where they beat your ass senseless. And just that,

you know, when they say they make you, for example, that made me drink nook mom, which is fish sauce.

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