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The Talk Show With John Gruber

342: ‘Doggy Lake’, With Matthew Panzarino

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2022

⏱️ 124 minutes

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Summary

Matthew Panzarino returns to the show to talk about Apple's new Mac Studio and Studio Display.

Transcript

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0:00.0

So the one good thing about podcasting is that nobody, it doesn't matter what jokes I crack,

0:04.7

nobody's gonna come up and give me a smack. Oh my god. So brutal. Is that bananas or what?

0:13.3

Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I mean, in the end, nobody should ever be assaulted, but it's just such a

0:20.9

layered, you know, complex situation that you get the, I mean, obviously, so shocking, right,

0:28.0

to see out there and then you sort of think all kinds of things immediately, like, what, you know,

0:33.6

that really happened, all that stuff. And then you get the immediate hot takes and the second day

0:38.5

hot takes and the third day hot takes, it's just exhausting. So we don't watch the Oscars live and

0:44.8

haven't for years. I, you know, it's just a little tedious. I like movies, but it's, you know,

0:49.7

I think for the reason a lot of people don't watch anymore. But Amy and I were going to bed on Sunday

0:54.4

night and Amy went upstairs first and Jonas said something about it and she was like, what? And I

1:00.1

was like, oh, I gotta find out what this is about. And it was like, because they, they like muted it

1:05.8

on the live American broadcast, you know, I guess because there's some kind of tape delay. Jonas

1:10.6

had like a clip from the internet that was from like Japanese TV. So it was such a bananas way to

1:18.0

watch it. But it was really real, you know, and I do think I know everybody's talking about it.

1:23.2

But I think there's a reason everybody's talking about it is it's like the rare incident where it's,

1:30.4

it's, it's like the perfect storm. And I said this to Amy and she thought I was nuts, but I said

1:37.4

it was sort of like, remember that that meme though, you have to remember this. The meme that went

1:42.0

around like five, six, seven years ago about the, what color is this dress? Is it blue or is it

1:48.7

gold? Or I forget what the two colors were. But yeah, yeah, blue and gold. Yeah.

1:53.0

And it's like, you know, it's somebody, you know, it was just like a weird trick of the lighting

1:58.1

and a weird trick of the way digital cameras work where it's like some people perceived it as blue

2:03.9

and some perceived it as gold. And it was pretty close to 50.50. And I did. I saw polling on this

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