Welcome to the show, I'm Jordan Harbinger.

As always, I'm here with producer Jason DeFilippo.

On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's

most brilliant people, and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact

your own life and those around you.

We want to help you see the matrix when it comes to how these amazing people think and

behave and we want you to become a better thinker.

If you're new to the show, we've got episodes with spies and CEOs, athletes and authors,

thinkers and performers, as well as toolboxes for skills like negotiation, body language,

persuasion and more.

So, if you're smart and you like to learn and improve, you'll be right at home here with

us.

We've got a special episode of the show here today.

Right on the heels of me promising not to talk about COVID-19 all the time, today I

bring you the former director of U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or CDC,

Julie Gerberding.

Gerberding led the CDC's efforts to prepare for and counter terrorism.

She's an associate clinical professor of medicine, infectious diseases, over at Emory University

and an associate professor of medicine, also infectious diseases, at the University of

California in San Francisco.

She later went on to head Merck Pharmaceuticals Vaccine Program.

So, she knows what she's talking about when it comes to infectious disease, vaccine

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