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The cool thing about the power of a gospel. Welcome to the You Are Not So Episode Episode 340 Episode 340 I'm When people think about chess players, they think that we think really far ahead, and that we analyze 10, 20 moves deep, which is really rare.

That is the voice of Jennifer Shahade, one of the friends of the show and one of the friends of David McGraney, who is me, your host, and Jennifer Shahade is a three-time United States chess champion.

She is an officially recognized woman grandmaster, a grandmaster of chess.

She's also a chess Olympic medalist, and Shahadi was the first woman to win the U.S. Junior Open. She plays lots of chess

and wins lots of tournaments. And the same is true of poker. She has won poker tournaments

in Prague and London and Las Vegas. In fact, she is a two-time global poker award winner.

And she also writes books about this stuff, especially about how to apply chess thinking to life thinking.

She's been on this show before back in episode 237.

She told us all about her book, Chess Queens, which is about the greatest women to play the game of all time. In this episode, we are going to discuss her new book, Thinking Sideways,

a book that's not really about lateral thinking. It's about thinking sideways. It's very relevant

to my current line of research into creative thinking and problem solving

as it relates to our folk concept of genius.

I'm writing a book about all that.

And one of the things that I'm obsessed with is something that Shahade is also obsessed with

and that she writes about in her new book.

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