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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#340 — The Bright Line Between Good and Evil

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Sam Harris speaks about the ongoing war in Gaza, the global rise of anti-Semitism, and the enduring problem of jihadism.

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0:00.0

And the Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris.

0:24.0

Well, it's been a month since Hamas attacked Israel,

0:29.0

killing around 1500 people and taking over 200 hostages.

0:34.8

And it's been a week since Israel's ground invasion of Gaza began.

0:40.4

Now, like many people, I'm concerned that the extensive bombing and now invasion of Gaza

0:46.4

could be a mistake.

0:48.3

I'm not saying Israel doesn't have to retaliate and destroy Hamas.

0:52.1

They clearly do. And I would say they have to destroy Hezbollah too and ultimately they and we have to

0:58.6

dismantle every jihadist organization that could impact our security in the future.

1:05.0

But there may have been other ways to have gone about destroying Hamas that would have better served

1:08.8

Israel's interests and produced fewer casualties on the Palestinian side.

1:14.0

As everyone expected, collateral damage in Gaza has convinced much of the world

1:18.4

that Israel is the real aggressor here.

1:21.1

Of course, many on the left began saying this before Israel had dropped a single bomb at a moment when it was clear that Hamas had committed atrocities of a sort that one scarcely imagines possible in the modern world.

1:32.0

The fact that millions of people can't do the moral

1:36.1

arithmetic here or have confidently produced the wrong answer is itself an enormous problem for open societies everywhere.

1:45.0

Because this should not have been confusing.

1:47.7

Hamas took a sadistic pleasure in torturing and killing non-combatants that should have made it instantly clear to everyone,

1:56.2

certainly to everyone on a college campus, that jihadist groups like Hamas are the permanent

2:02.3

enemies of civilization.

2:04.8

So Israel really does have a war to fight, but I worry that the ground invasion of Gaza could

2:09.3

be a mistake.

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