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Welcome to Crawl Space. I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing great today, Tim. We have a wonderful guest on who is one of the more

researched and articulate people that we have on the show. But in a very

researched and articulate way, I would like to know how you are.

Well, thank you. I'm doing great. I am excited to share this

episode, this conversation that we had with Grey Hughes of Grey Hughes Investigates.

And you can check out everything that he's doing at Grey Hughes Investigates.com.

And that's also his channel's name on YouTube. He's up to almost 100,000 subscribers.

And you can find that at Grey Hughes Investigates. And Lance, he's been talking

a lot about the Idaho 4. Those are the four victims who were murdered in

Moscow, Idaho, who were students at the University of Idaho.

And the victims' names are Madison Mogul, Kayleigh Gonsalvez, Zannockernoodle,

and Ethan Chapin. And this is a really, really, really tragic story of

four individuals who were in their early 20s just living the life of an early

20s adolescent. And the murders are so brutal that the reminiscent of those

serial killers of the 70s and 80s. But what I love about Grey's research on this

and his investigation is that he puts together all of this information.

He compiles it all and he's creating things like 3D animation, walkthroughs

of the location of this crime so that you can get a sense of how the killer moved

through the house. And that's not just to be salacious because you can go down

a really salacious path with this and just try to do it for clicks.

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