34 Cents an Hour: Prison Labor & the Exception in the 13th Amendment
Into the Mix
Ben & Jerry's and Vox Creative
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 28 February 2024
⏱️ 50 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is Into the Mix, a Ben & Jerry's podcast about joy and justice, produced with Vox Creative. |
| 0:07.3 | I'm Ashley C. Ford. |
| 0:13.5 | Johnny Perez is a father of two and a new resident of Jersey City just outside of Manhattan. |
| 0:22.6 | Yeah, I moved here in April, you know, it's pretty spaces. |
| 0:26.6 | It's a two-floor loft, two bedrooms, two bathrooms, lots of windows. |
| 0:30.6 | On this quiet October morning, every window in his corner unit is thrown open, filling the space with birdsong |
| 0:40.0 | and a breeze. And outside of them, horizon in every direction. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, you know, |
| 0:52.4 | it's like, |
| 0:59.0 | it all makes me emotional, because there are times that I wake up and I'm just like grateful, like eternally grateful, you know? |
| 1:03.0 | And then, yeah, there are times when I look out and I'm like, shit. |
| 1:06.0 | Like, you know, I'm here. |
| 1:11.7 | These windows are a protest. |
| 1:15.3 | I spent three and a half years in a cell with no windows, you know. |
| 1:20.1 | Sort of go from no windows to too many windows, you know, like really, it wakes me up differently. |
| 1:25.9 | These windows are a prayer. |
| 1:32.8 | Johnny spent 13 years waking up in prison cells, starting when he was 21. |
| 1:39.0 | And he spent a total of three and a half years in solitary confinement throughout his conviction. His longest |
| 1:45.8 | stretch was 10 months in a 6x8 cell. Johnny says that a lot of the time, solitary was used |
| 1:53.5 | as punishment for something so normal, so innocuous. It's hard to comprehend the cruelty |
| 2:00.5 | leveled against it, not showing up for work, |
| 2:04.6 | or something else we've all done on one workday or another, performed at less than 100%. |
| 2:11.4 | In 13 years, I went to non-different presidents in New York State. And the amount of times that I saw people go to the box or solitary for work-related misbehavior |
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