Hello everybody and welcome to the latest podcast.

So this is a Talal initiated podcast. I was around at Talal's house the other day. Yeah, we hang out.

Yeah, we do.

As well as two podcasts together where...

We were playing craps against the wall.

Yes, smoking cigars.

We're actually round at your sister's house.

And we're talking about how this podcast had taken us where not before time into discussing issues around Palestine.

And your sister, I think, or both of you suggested we should have Adam on,

who's a family friend?

No.

No.

No, someone, me and my sister both follow online.

Oh, right.

Me and my sister both obviously very passionate about freedom for Palestine and the whole movement.

And so when we see really great coverage and passionate discourse about it online,

we always look up who's talking.

And Adam Brunberg is one of those people who basically is fearless and has been to Palestine many times and takes a really good camera with him.

He's a visual artist, a photographer.

And he does great coverage and candid video capture out there and spends time with Palestinians

and kind of documents their experience from their point of view in a way that you don't see

very often.

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