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Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger.

As always, I'm here with my producer, Jason DeFilippo.

On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's most

brilliant people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to

impact your own life and those around you.

We want to help you see the matrix when it comes to how these amazing people think

and behave. We want you to become a better thinker.

If you're new to the show, we've got episodes with spies and CEOs,

athletes and authors, thinkers and performers, as well as toolboxes for skills like

negotiation, body language, persuasion and more.

So if you're smart and you like to learn and improve,

you'll be right at home here with us.

Today, we've got Ozon Varole. He's a former rocket scientist,

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