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🗓️ 11 December 2022
⏱️ 48 minutes
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0:00.0 | I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today? |
0:32.4 | I really couldn't be better today, Tim. I hope every single one of our listeners out there couldn't be better as well. |
0:39.1 | And I hope you, Tim, couldn't be better. I hope you're literally sitting there thinking, I don't know any way I could be better. How are you? |
0:46.4 | I literally couldn't be any better, Lance. You nailed it. Thanks a lot for asking. And I'm really excited to introduce this interview that we had with a wonderful journalist. |
0:57.6 | Her name is Lauren Bright Pacheco, and she is also a podcaster and has done several podcasts, |
1:03.7 | but the one that we're talking about today is called Murder in Oregon, and it is about the |
1:08.7 | 1989 murder of Michael Frankie |
1:12.0 | and the wrongful conviction |
1:14.3 | of Frank Gable. It is a really fascinating |
1:16.7 | story that Lauren tells us about |
1:18.9 | this murder, about this assassination, |
1:20.8 | really, of Michael Frankie. |
1:22.6 | She gets into how the justice system |
1:24.5 | is completely broken and how if they |
1:26.6 | want somebody convicted for a crime |
1:28.2 | for whatever reason, it is very quick to judge and takes no responsibility when they have |
1:34.1 | realized that they've made a mistake or a mistake has been made. So we get into that and we get |
1:38.8 | into what type of a person Michael Frankie was sort of a crusader. And back in those times, not a lot of people were as progressive as he was when it came to reforming the criminal justice system. |
1:49.9 | And he was fighting a corrupt prison system. |
1:52.8 | That is essentially what got him assassinated, his dissent of the system and his challenge to them to make things better and to clean up that corruption. |
2:01.1 | And really it's a shame that somebody |
2:02.7 | who was trying to make such positive headway |
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