Biblical religion is not just a self-help program, Father Jeffrey Kirby next.

Hello and welcome to Focus the Catholic Answers Podcast for Living,

Understanding and Defending Your Catholic Faith. I'm Psy Kell at your host and this time

we welcome the author of a brand new book here at Catholic Answers. The book is called Real Religion.

How to Avoid False Faith and Worship God in Spirit and Truth. The author is our friend, Father

Jeffrey Kirby who I always find it's just so enlightening to talk with Father. It's first time

he's been on focus so I think you'll really enjoy our conversation and what he has to say.

We took a section from the book where he warns us about turning religion, this biblical religion

that we have been given, rooted in the revelation of God and rooted in the worship of God and taking

that religion and turning it merely into a self-help program. That actually doesn't help any self.

Here's Father Kirby. Father Jeffrey Kirby, the author of Real Religion, How to Avoid False Faith

and Worship God in Spirit and Truth. Thank you for being with us.

It's a pleasure. It's a beautiful new book. Why'd you write it? What?

Yeah, the book was really born from just a lot of questions I would see was receiving

passionately or just things I would see in the hearts of believers. Oftentimes when people had ideas

for worship or then we try to poke or ask questions or had great ideas how they can make the

mass better and so on. Just receiving these questions a lot and kind of pressing a little bit

for explanations, realizing more and more that there was a real misunderstanding in terms of what

worship is called to be, what we are called to do during worship. At the receiving multiple

instances of these questions or these experiences I thought, let me just sit down and

it really just in part in my own mind, develop this argument and then try to provide this clear

and readable way of presenting that argument to other people. It's fascinating. It's in the context

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