You're saying that a tongue tie might be a major contributor to the baby's position and how they are birthed?

Absolutely. Without a doubt.

And the tongue, as we see, is key to the airway.

And it makes a difference how we hold our head in space.

This is why a lot of babies are tipping their heads back, right?

They extend their neck.

Why a lot of babies also tip their head forward.

All of them are attempts at maintaining airway patency because the nervous system has wisdom that we understand and completely trust, even if it looks maladaptive.

But what we need to do is make sure the tongue is doing what it's supposed to do so the maladaptive strategies can go away.

I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of hypniburthing of Connecticut, childbirth Advocate, and Postpartum Support Specialist.

And I'm Tresha Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board-certified lactation consultant.

And this is the Down to Birth podcast.

Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in

today's medical culture? Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

Hi, I'm Michelle Emanuel. I'm an occupational therapist and also a lactation therapist.

My business is located in Cincinnati, Ohio, and my online presence is at Tung-Tie

Davies and at Tumet Time Method, and I'm glad to be here.

Michelle, we are thrilled to have you back.

We did a fantastic Patreon event with you a number of months ago. And we learned so much in our community

learned so much from you in that segment that we are having you back again, now officially

on the podcast, to talk in, actually, we're going to talk about something a little bit different

than we talked about on Patreon. So if you want sort of a generalized overview of tongue tie, you can get that over on our Patreon episode with you. But today, I think

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