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🗓️ 18 September 2023
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Sam Harris speaks with David Brooks about the state of American democracy and the liberal world order. They discuss the weakness of moral individualism, the loss of social trust, the dangers of identity politics, what happened to the Republican Party, the hatred of elites, the 2024 Presidential Election, the Trump indictments, the war in Ukraine, moral force, the roots of liberalism, the various flavors of Trump support, the Biden presidency, Hunter Biden’s laptop scandal, Biden’s prospects in 2024, Nikki Haley, economic inequality, the problems with meritocracy, the state of media and social media, the lure of conspiracy thinking, the politics of recognition, our handling of the Covid pandemic, our difficulties acknowledging uncertainty, our withdrawal from Afghanistan, the limits of American power, and other topics.
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0:46.3 | Well, I have a significant housekeeping to do, but I think that will be a standalone podcast. |
0:52.0 | So look for that next. Today I'm speaking with David Brooks. David is a contributing writer at |
0:58.9 | the Atlantic, and also a columnist for The New York Times, and a commentator on PBS's |
1:05.9 | NewsHour. He's the author of several books, including the second mountain and the road to |
1:12.6 | character, as well as the forthcoming book, How to Know a Person, the art of seeing others deeply |
1:19.6 | and being deeply seen. David has been awarded more than 30 honorary degrees. He is a member of |
1:26.0 | the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and he teaches at Yale University. David and I spoke |
1:31.8 | about the state of American democracy and the liberal world order. We discussed the weaknesses |
1:37.9 | of moral individualism, the loss of social trust, the dangers of identity politics, |
1:44.6 | what happened to the Republican Party, the hatred of elites, the 2024 presidential election, |
1:51.4 | the Trump indictments, the war in Ukraine, moral force, the roots of liberalism, the various |
1:59.0 | flavors of Trump support at this point, the Biden presidency, Hunter Biden's laptop, Biden's |
2:05.9 | prospects in 2024, Nikki Haley, economic inequality, the enduring problems with meritocracy, |
2:14.2 | the state of media and social media, the lure of conspiracy thinking, the politics of recognition, |
2:21.5 | our handling of the COVID pandemic, our difficulty is acknowledging uncertainty, our withdrawal from |
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